1 00:00:07,655 --> 00:00:08,448 There's a body of Broad Street, 2 00:00:08,586 --> 00:00:09,965 was left outside Carl Lowry's offices. 3 00:00:10,103 --> 00:00:12,310 The dentist who was booked this morning 4 00:00:12,413 --> 00:00:13,724 for unholy amounts of child porn? 5 00:00:13,827 --> 00:00:15,137 There are people out there that can make 6 00:00:15,241 --> 00:00:16,379 children disappear just like... 7 00:00:16,448 --> 00:00:18,965 I'm just not willing to divulge that information 8 00:00:19,103 --> 00:00:20,103 without court order. 9 00:00:20,206 --> 00:00:22,655 Welcome to the UK. Sorry it's shit. 10 00:00:25,379 --> 00:00:27,034 He's been given a pedicure. 11 00:00:27,137 --> 00:00:28,310 His feet are pristine. 12 00:00:28,793 --> 00:00:32,068 And I will love you, whether you like it or not. 13 00:00:32,482 --> 00:00:34,241 They want our attention. 14 00:00:34,344 --> 00:00:36,310 Well, they've bloody got it. 15 00:01:40,344 --> 00:01:42,034 What have you got there? 16 00:01:46,344 --> 00:01:47,793 Come here. 17 00:01:58,172 --> 00:02:00,068 Oh, dear... 18 00:02:04,413 --> 00:02:08,448 Shh, shh, shh, shh, shh... 19 00:02:19,758 --> 00:02:20,931 Leave it inland, 20 00:02:21,034 --> 00:02:23,068 so the foxes can have it for tea. 21 00:02:31,793 --> 00:02:33,172 Go on. 22 00:02:38,896 --> 00:02:41,793 "And God shall right all sins... 23 00:02:43,000 --> 00:02:45,517 And there shall be no more death... 24 00:02:46,103 --> 00:02:47,551 Nor crying, 25 00:02:47,655 --> 00:02:50,517 neither shall there be any more pain." 26 00:03:51,689 --> 00:03:56,103 "And the sorrow ... 27 00:03:56,172 --> 00:04:00,310 You are safe Christ who died, 28 00:04:00,448 --> 00:04:05,000 rose again, and lives forevermore. 29 00:04:05,655 --> 00:04:08,758 In the name of the Father, the Son, 30 00:04:09,310 --> 00:04:11,172 and the Holy Spirit." 31 00:04:13,241 --> 00:04:14,862 Amen. 32 00:05:07,103 --> 00:05:08,344 No toast? 33 00:05:08,448 --> 00:05:09,310 Hi, Uncle Lou. 34 00:05:09,448 --> 00:05:11,551 Ugh, no! It's my morning off. 35 00:05:11,620 --> 00:05:13,275 I've got Jojo, remember? Now, piss off. 36 00:05:13,379 --> 00:05:14,758 Uh, sorry, champ. 37 00:05:15,172 --> 00:05:17,000 Found another dead body. 38 00:05:17,413 --> 00:05:18,448 Oh my God, where? 39 00:05:18,551 --> 00:05:20,931 The warehouse at Filwood Green business park. 40 00:05:21,379 --> 00:05:22,758 Thoughts? 41 00:05:22,862 --> 00:05:24,206 I'm thinkin' them. 42 00:05:25,344 --> 00:05:27,103 Right, I'm gonna need... 43 00:05:27,620 --> 00:05:29,793 I'm gonna need to shower, if that's okay with you. 44 00:05:30,551 --> 00:05:32,620 You're lucky I'm in a hurry, punk. 45 00:05:32,724 --> 00:05:34,068 -I'm watching you. -Alex! 46 00:05:34,793 --> 00:05:36,551 Yell for Dad for me, please, Jojo. 47 00:05:36,862 --> 00:05:39,310 Dad, Mum's going into work now! 48 00:05:39,448 --> 00:05:40,793 Well, you can't go in. 49 00:05:40,896 --> 00:05:43,137 Sorry to be the ghost of Christmas shite. 50 00:05:43,241 --> 00:05:44,275 They've found a second body. 51 00:05:44,413 --> 00:05:45,793 Aw, man... 52 00:05:45,896 --> 00:05:47,965 Okay, well, Lou, can't you take this one? 53 00:05:48,068 --> 00:05:49,965 He can't just take this one. That's not how it works. 54 00:05:50,103 --> 00:05:52,137 This one, this meeting this morning, Jeanette. 55 00:05:52,241 --> 00:05:53,206 I really need this. 56 00:05:53,275 --> 00:05:54,827 I mean, look at you, you're not even dressed. 57 00:05:54,931 --> 00:05:56,275 Excellent choice of pajamas. 58 00:05:56,379 --> 00:05:59,172 Um, look, dead body trumps meeting. 59 00:05:59,517 --> 00:06:00,758 Is it a serial killer? 60 00:06:00,862 --> 00:06:02,586 -No, Jojo... -Potentially, yes. 61 00:06:02,655 --> 00:06:03,689 -Jeanette. -What? 62 00:06:03,793 --> 00:06:04,517 You've gotta be more mindful, 63 00:06:04,620 --> 00:06:05,793 he'll get nightmares again. 64 00:06:05,896 --> 00:06:07,000 Can you two just save your divorce 65 00:06:07,068 --> 00:06:09,379 until after we put this mudder behind bars, please? 66 00:06:09,482 --> 00:06:10,896 Well, okay, I can... 67 00:06:11,000 --> 00:06:12,896 -I can get changed. -Please. 68 00:06:16,310 --> 00:06:18,034 Oh, no. That's all wrong. 69 00:06:18,172 --> 00:06:19,241 Start again. 70 00:06:31,310 --> 00:06:33,896 A person I didn't know had ripped me open, 71 00:06:34,862 --> 00:06:38,137 and I wanted it to go away, not die. 72 00:06:39,862 --> 00:06:42,827 Just to never have existed at all. 73 00:06:47,620 --> 00:06:49,551 I knew it was irreversible. 74 00:06:51,793 --> 00:06:53,827 That no matter what I did... 75 00:06:55,000 --> 00:06:57,862 It already existed in the world, and it was too late. 76 00:07:01,310 --> 00:07:03,586 I suppose it was all rather funny, in the end. 77 00:07:04,310 --> 00:07:06,241 What was? What was funny? 78 00:07:10,586 --> 00:07:12,862 It wasn't a baby, after all. 79 00:07:14,137 --> 00:07:15,448 Well, what was it? 80 00:07:17,000 --> 00:07:18,275 An egg. 81 00:07:19,448 --> 00:07:21,241 An egg in a onesie. 82 00:07:23,586 --> 00:07:25,103 And I cracked it. 83 00:07:25,206 --> 00:07:27,862 Now, it's not rocket science. 84 00:07:36,620 --> 00:07:39,034 Bloody woman, I swear to God... 85 00:07:39,103 --> 00:07:40,344 Morning. 86 00:07:40,448 --> 00:07:41,551 I've a question, 87 00:07:41,655 --> 00:07:43,620 did you move my handbag from the table last night? 88 00:07:43,758 --> 00:07:45,448 -No. -Mm. 89 00:07:45,551 --> 00:07:47,862 No, I wouldn't go near your handbag. 90 00:07:51,551 --> 00:07:52,586 Come on, let's go. 91 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:36,551 Did you mean to keep this? 92 00:08:37,758 --> 00:08:39,310 It was weeks ago. 93 00:08:51,379 --> 00:08:52,793 Never mind. 94 00:08:55,068 --> 00:08:56,965 It's not normal to be wetting the bed at your age. 95 00:09:28,758 --> 00:09:30,241 God. 96 00:09:30,793 --> 00:09:32,241 It's a similar bag. 97 00:09:32,379 --> 00:09:33,448 Looks like. 98 00:09:33,586 --> 00:09:36,379 Young male, similar injuries as the first victim. 99 00:09:36,517 --> 00:09:37,482 Cuts and bruises. 100 00:09:37,551 --> 00:09:38,655 Has he been frozen? 101 00:09:38,724 --> 00:09:39,724 We have to confirm. 102 00:09:39,827 --> 00:09:41,137 -And his feet? -Neat and tidy. 103 00:09:41,241 --> 00:09:42,931 Who owns this place? 104 00:09:43,068 --> 00:09:45,655 That guy. David White, he's the owner. 105 00:09:45,758 --> 00:09:46,793 Okay. 106 00:09:52,827 --> 00:09:55,206 Mr. White? My name is DCI Jeanette Kilburn. 107 00:09:55,310 --> 00:09:56,586 It's all good. 108 00:09:56,689 --> 00:09:58,689 Mr. White, if I could have a few minutes of your time, please. 109 00:09:58,758 --> 00:10:00,655 -Yes, of course. -Thank you. 110 00:10:00,758 --> 00:10:01,931 I've got a work experience lad here, 111 00:10:02,068 --> 00:10:03,344 who's just found a dead body, 112 00:10:03,448 --> 00:10:05,068 and he's understandably a bit shaken. 113 00:10:05,172 --> 00:10:06,586 But if you really can't wait... 114 00:10:06,689 --> 00:10:07,793 No, I really can't. 115 00:10:08,862 --> 00:10:10,206 -You okay? -Yeah. 116 00:10:11,896 --> 00:10:13,517 When did you arrive this morning? 117 00:10:14,206 --> 00:10:17,310 6:30, had a call from Simon here on the way in. 118 00:10:17,413 --> 00:10:18,620 He was there first. 119 00:10:18,724 --> 00:10:20,551 Last night, what time did you leave? 120 00:10:20,655 --> 00:10:21,758 Nine. 121 00:10:21,896 --> 00:10:23,103 There's no one here after me. 122 00:10:23,206 --> 00:10:26,068 Anything unusual, any people on or around the premises 123 00:10:26,172 --> 00:10:28,344 -that normally aren't? -No, nothing. 124 00:10:28,413 --> 00:10:29,586 Where were you last night? 125 00:10:30,034 --> 00:10:31,862 Well, I was at home, I was workin' until late. 126 00:10:31,931 --> 00:10:34,482 Anyone here able to corroborate that for you? 127 00:10:35,689 --> 00:10:37,517 Excuse me? What, is, is, is this...? 128 00:10:37,586 --> 00:10:39,862 Do you happen to know an individual called Carl Lowry? 129 00:10:40,758 --> 00:10:42,724 Well, what does it bloody matter if I know him? 130 00:10:42,793 --> 00:10:45,586 Well, a dead body appears at Carl's place of work, 131 00:10:45,724 --> 00:10:47,068 and the very next day, 132 00:10:47,586 --> 00:10:49,724 a dead body appears at your place of work, 133 00:10:49,827 --> 00:10:51,827 and I'm just, you know, I... 134 00:10:52,172 --> 00:10:53,310 I wanna know why. 135 00:10:53,413 --> 00:10:55,068 Yeah, well, you and me both. 136 00:10:55,172 --> 00:10:57,758 Now, all I know is I've turned up for work, 137 00:10:57,896 --> 00:10:59,689 there's a dead body on my site. 138 00:10:59,793 --> 00:11:02,000 We're shut down for production, which is gonna set us back, 139 00:11:02,103 --> 00:11:03,931 and now I'm bein' accused of murder. 140 00:11:04,000 --> 00:11:06,379 No, no one's accusing you of murder, Mr. White. 141 00:11:06,793 --> 00:11:08,620 Well, you may as well have done. 142 00:11:09,310 --> 00:11:12,586 I do not like the insinuation. 143 00:11:12,689 --> 00:11:14,172 Now, if you require me further, 144 00:11:14,275 --> 00:11:16,310 I will come in with a lawyer to the station. 145 00:11:17,758 --> 00:11:18,793 Thank you. 146 00:11:25,758 --> 00:11:27,827 Got clear shot of CCTV from Broad Street. 147 00:11:27,931 --> 00:11:29,275 Halle-fuckin'-lujah. 148 00:11:30,344 --> 00:11:31,344 What have we got on him? 149 00:11:31,482 --> 00:11:34,034 Oh, no criminal record. Self-made millionaire. 150 00:11:34,137 --> 00:11:35,172 Our boy's done well. 151 00:11:35,275 --> 00:11:37,137 Former butcher turned entrepreneur. 152 00:11:37,241 --> 00:11:39,482 Supplies most of pork in Somerset. 153 00:11:39,620 --> 00:11:41,586 So, if you got sausages this side of the River Severn, 154 00:11:41,689 --> 00:11:43,655 -chances are they're one of his. -That's disgusting. 155 00:11:43,758 --> 00:11:45,655 No, fiver says Lowry is involved. 156 00:11:45,758 --> 00:11:47,275 Maybe, but keep an open mind. 157 00:12:07,379 --> 00:12:09,551 My guy, my guy, my guy. 158 00:12:26,689 --> 00:12:28,379 We're okay. 159 00:12:28,758 --> 00:12:29,931 Thank you. 160 00:13:05,103 --> 00:13:07,310 There. Punch in. 161 00:13:09,000 --> 00:13:10,758 You see? There's the bag. 162 00:13:16,793 --> 00:13:18,103 Where's he go after that? 163 00:13:18,241 --> 00:13:19,206 Why are we assumin' that's a man? 164 00:13:19,310 --> 00:13:20,448 I think that's a woman. 165 00:13:20,586 --> 00:13:22,310 You know, women can do anything they set their minds to, 166 00:13:22,413 --> 00:13:23,482 -Jeanette. -Thank you, Lou. 167 00:13:23,620 --> 00:13:25,551 The 21st century is delighted you could join us. 168 00:13:25,655 --> 00:13:26,862 Where's he go after that? 169 00:13:27,172 --> 00:13:29,103 He heads down Tailor's Court. 170 00:13:29,413 --> 00:13:31,275 He dumps the bag. 171 00:13:31,379 --> 00:13:33,241 Then he goes down to Broad Street. 172 00:13:35,034 --> 00:13:36,275 -Then we lose him. -Shit. 173 00:13:38,034 --> 00:13:39,206 Do we have today's footage? 174 00:13:39,310 --> 00:13:41,241 -Yeah, yeah. -Yeah? 175 00:13:45,482 --> 00:13:46,586 There we go. 176 00:13:56,517 --> 00:13:57,586 Jesus. 177 00:14:00,206 --> 00:14:01,482 Fuck me. 178 00:14:05,689 --> 00:14:07,689 That's deliberate and orchestrated. 179 00:14:07,793 --> 00:14:09,000 They're talking to us. 180 00:14:09,103 --> 00:14:10,275 Yeah, but what is he saying? 181 00:14:10,344 --> 00:14:11,862 "I'm a cocky, murdering piece of shit, 182 00:14:11,965 --> 00:14:12,862 come and arrest me." 183 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:14,172 Very cocky. 184 00:14:14,310 --> 00:14:15,827 We need to be combing through our databases. 185 00:14:15,931 --> 00:14:17,000 Repeat offenders. 186 00:14:17,103 --> 00:14:18,689 Be specific. ABH, GBH? 187 00:14:18,793 --> 00:14:21,172 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. All of them. 188 00:14:21,275 --> 00:14:22,551 Anyone who's been recently released 189 00:14:22,655 --> 00:14:23,862 with violence on their record. 190 00:14:24,000 --> 00:14:25,137 What about their feet? 191 00:14:25,241 --> 00:14:27,620 UK-wide for any trophy hunters. 192 00:14:27,724 --> 00:14:29,965 Absolutely, yeah. But why wash their feet? 193 00:14:30,068 --> 00:14:32,448 Well, I mean, it might be out of respect. 194 00:14:33,000 --> 00:14:35,620 You know, someone doing something nice for them? 195 00:14:36,137 --> 00:14:38,862 You know, John, chapter 13, verse 14. 196 00:14:39,655 --> 00:14:40,862 "If I, your Lord and Teacher, 197 00:14:40,965 --> 00:14:42,172 has washed your feet, 198 00:14:42,275 --> 00:14:44,000 then you ought to wash one another's feet." 199 00:14:44,862 --> 00:14:47,793 So, it's like the ultimate deference. 200 00:14:47,896 --> 00:14:49,517 Didn't know you were religious, Mike. 201 00:14:50,137 --> 00:14:52,482 I'm not. My mom is, though. 202 00:14:53,344 --> 00:14:55,310 Church was intense. 203 00:14:57,310 --> 00:14:58,379 Respect... 204 00:15:00,068 --> 00:15:01,517 And if it is respect, 205 00:15:01,620 --> 00:15:03,551 it can't be the person doing the killing 206 00:15:03,655 --> 00:15:04,965 that's dumping them. 207 00:15:08,344 --> 00:15:09,551 what do you want? 208 00:15:29,551 --> 00:15:30,689 Really? 209 00:15:31,379 --> 00:15:37,241 I think anybody who wants to hurt anybody else is evil. 210 00:15:37,758 --> 00:15:39,448 And do you think Angela's evil, 211 00:15:39,586 --> 00:15:41,931 or do you think her actions are evil? 212 00:15:42,586 --> 00:15:44,172 She tried to kill me. 213 00:15:44,896 --> 00:15:48,034 I know she's unhappy, but I'm not. 214 00:15:50,655 --> 00:15:52,172 When I've spoken to Angela, 215 00:15:52,241 --> 00:15:54,241 she's made it very clear that it's her own life 216 00:15:54,379 --> 00:15:55,862 she wishes to end. 217 00:15:55,931 --> 00:15:58,724 Her depression it's, it's all-consuming. 218 00:15:58,827 --> 00:16:02,310 She's not currently able to factor you into her thinking. 219 00:16:05,137 --> 00:16:07,689 I just want a normal life. 220 00:16:09,448 --> 00:16:11,724 Just want to live without... 221 00:16:19,931 --> 00:16:20,965 Angela? 222 00:16:33,034 --> 00:16:34,827 Am I speaking to Angela? 223 00:16:37,379 --> 00:16:38,517 It's me. 224 00:16:39,620 --> 00:16:40,655 Sophia. 225 00:16:44,896 --> 00:16:46,586 Angela... 226 00:16:52,724 --> 00:16:55,586 No, no, no, no. 227 00:17:01,448 --> 00:17:03,896 I don't wanna hurt anyone else. 228 00:17:05,896 --> 00:17:09,551 Just don't wanna be here anymore. 229 00:17:18,034 --> 00:17:19,689 Can't do it. 230 00:17:20,620 --> 00:17:21,827 Can't. 231 00:17:23,206 --> 00:17:24,965 What, what can't you do? 232 00:17:41,482 --> 00:17:42,965 It's okay. 233 00:17:43,551 --> 00:17:44,896 It's okay. 234 00:17:48,137 --> 00:17:49,862 Here. 235 00:17:55,862 --> 00:17:58,551 Lidocaine, it's a local anesthetic. 236 00:17:58,689 --> 00:18:00,000 It's not particularly powerful, 237 00:18:00,068 --> 00:18:02,310 and it has a relatively short half-life. 238 00:18:02,620 --> 00:18:03,827 How is it used traditionally? 239 00:18:03,965 --> 00:18:07,034 Primarily pain management, but that can come in all forms. 240 00:18:07,103 --> 00:18:09,275 So, minor surgeries. 241 00:18:09,758 --> 00:18:12,724 You get it in the cream that you use on bites, 242 00:18:12,827 --> 00:18:14,482 if you're havin' a filling done, that kind of thing. 243 00:18:14,586 --> 00:18:17,137 Could be a drug Carl Lowry uses on the daily. 244 00:18:17,241 --> 00:18:19,275 Sorry, Eva, go on. 245 00:18:19,827 --> 00:18:21,000 Epidurals. 246 00:18:21,517 --> 00:18:23,413 But that is heavily controlled. 247 00:18:23,517 --> 00:18:27,689 This, this has been injected straight into his bloodstream. 248 00:18:27,793 --> 00:18:28,896 It is the cause of death? 249 00:18:28,965 --> 00:18:31,931 Lidocaine is not powerful enough to poison him, 250 00:18:32,034 --> 00:18:33,965 but you see here? 251 00:18:34,068 --> 00:18:36,517 There's a single puncture mark on his wrist. 252 00:18:36,620 --> 00:18:37,931 It looks like a cannula. 253 00:18:38,068 --> 00:18:39,862 like he's been hooked up to a bag. 254 00:18:39,965 --> 00:18:42,448 Whatever it was they were drugging him for, 255 00:18:42,586 --> 00:18:44,068 they wanted him wide awake. 256 00:18:44,655 --> 00:18:47,448 So, quite possibly, he's been tortured. 257 00:18:47,827 --> 00:18:50,413 Look, why don't I go through what I've got? 258 00:18:50,793 --> 00:18:53,068 No obvious signs of brain trauma. 259 00:18:53,965 --> 00:18:55,862 But that'll be sent off for further testing. 260 00:18:55,965 --> 00:18:59,241 Here, you can see the shattered cheekbone. 261 00:19:00,103 --> 00:19:03,655 His knuckles, they're shot to shit. 262 00:19:03,965 --> 00:19:06,517 Defensive wounds everywhere. 263 00:19:06,620 --> 00:19:08,724 And these, these missing fingers, 264 00:19:09,517 --> 00:19:11,103 they've been bitten off. 265 00:19:13,517 --> 00:19:14,689 Can you age him? 266 00:19:14,827 --> 00:19:16,862 I put him about 17. 267 00:19:17,517 --> 00:19:19,758 Heritage unknown, as of yet. 268 00:19:19,862 --> 00:19:21,793 Has he been sexually assaulted? 269 00:19:24,275 --> 00:19:25,931 No evidence that I can see, 270 00:19:26,034 --> 00:19:27,103 but we can't rule it out. 271 00:19:27,172 --> 00:19:28,413 Look, it's not Lowry's MO. 272 00:19:28,517 --> 00:19:32,517 He likes little girls, no killin' young men. 273 00:19:32,620 --> 00:19:34,931 Did you know, Lou, that it's possible to be into 274 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:37,517 two abhorrent things at the same time? 275 00:19:37,620 --> 00:19:41,000 But the feet, the feet is where it gets interesting. 276 00:19:41,965 --> 00:19:43,172 Pristine. 277 00:19:43,793 --> 00:19:46,689 Savlon on the cuts and the blisters. 278 00:19:46,793 --> 00:19:49,206 His nails, they've been cleaned and trimmed. 279 00:19:49,344 --> 00:19:51,068 It's very, very weird. 280 00:19:51,344 --> 00:19:54,034 And similarities with our guy at the warehouse? 281 00:19:54,482 --> 00:19:58,034 Well, I mean, I obviously haven't done the PM. 282 00:19:58,172 --> 00:20:00,172 Because he only came in this morning, 283 00:20:00,275 --> 00:20:03,344 and if you recall, I am not an actual wizard. 284 00:20:04,000 --> 00:20:05,448 -Mm-hm. -But I did manage to get 285 00:20:05,551 --> 00:20:07,172 bloods off to toxicology. 286 00:20:07,827 --> 00:20:09,103 Oh my God, have you? 287 00:20:09,655 --> 00:20:11,758 Tox shows lidocaine in both. 288 00:20:11,862 --> 00:20:12,655 -Yes! -Ow! 289 00:20:12,758 --> 00:20:13,517 Yes. 290 00:20:13,655 --> 00:20:15,000 You know I didn't kill him, right? 291 00:20:15,137 --> 00:20:16,655 Well, you know what, I'm gonna get that interview today. 292 00:20:16,758 --> 00:20:17,965 I'm gonna get it. 293 00:20:18,034 --> 00:20:19,931 Eva, if you could get a wiggle on the warehouse guy's PM, 294 00:20:20,034 --> 00:20:21,103 that would be much-appreciated. 295 00:20:21,206 --> 00:20:23,000 Now, did you schedule your party in the end? 296 00:20:23,103 --> 00:20:24,275 Yes, tomorrow night. 297 00:20:24,379 --> 00:20:26,965 I booked out a karaoke booth until late. 298 00:20:27,310 --> 00:20:28,172 You're not gonna believe this. 299 00:20:28,275 --> 00:20:29,862 Okay, but my son, Jojo, 300 00:20:29,965 --> 00:20:31,482 he does have a football tournament 301 00:20:31,586 --> 00:20:32,965 -Tomorrow night. -Oh, no, come on! 302 00:20:33,034 --> 00:20:34,965 -He does, it's the truth. -No, no, no. 303 00:20:35,034 --> 00:20:35,965 It's the truth. 304 00:20:36,034 --> 00:20:37,172 That's a very interesting time to schedule 305 00:20:37,275 --> 00:20:39,448 a children's football tournament, no? 306 00:20:39,551 --> 00:20:40,758 Hm? 307 00:21:03,275 --> 00:21:04,931 I'm gonna phone that woman again. 308 00:21:05,034 --> 00:21:06,103 -The psychiatrist? -Yeah. 309 00:21:06,206 --> 00:21:08,413 Don't make things easy for yourself, do you? 310 00:21:08,517 --> 00:21:09,620 No. 311 00:21:11,724 --> 00:21:12,620 Hello? 312 00:21:12,724 --> 00:21:14,551 Oh, hi, is this Dr. Sophia Craven? 313 00:21:14,655 --> 00:21:15,655 Speaking. 314 00:21:15,758 --> 00:21:18,000 Yeah, this is DCI Jeanette Kilburn. 315 00:21:18,103 --> 00:21:19,275 I was wonderin' if you were at 316 00:21:19,379 --> 00:21:20,758 liberty at all to discuss Carl Lowry? 317 00:21:20,862 --> 00:21:22,379 I have a client soon, but a quick coffee? 318 00:21:22,448 --> 00:21:23,793 No, no, no, no, that's great. 319 00:21:23,896 --> 00:21:24,793 I'll text you the address. 320 00:21:24,896 --> 00:21:25,931 Yeah, I can be there straight away. 321 00:21:26,068 --> 00:21:27,482 -Great. -Yeah, okay, listen, 322 00:21:27,586 --> 00:21:28,517 I can't thank you enough... 323 00:21:28,586 --> 00:21:30,068 She's hung up on me, so... 324 00:21:30,586 --> 00:21:31,896 Wow, okay, I've got to go. 325 00:21:32,000 --> 00:21:33,241 Yeah, of course you do. 326 00:21:33,310 --> 00:21:35,206 If you need me, I'll be in the office, doin' my job. 327 00:21:35,310 --> 00:21:36,275 Tryin' not to get myself fired. 328 00:22:11,241 --> 00:22:12,965 Stop! 329 00:22:13,068 --> 00:22:14,344 Stop it, now! 330 00:22:29,413 --> 00:22:30,517 Enough! 331 00:22:33,448 --> 00:22:34,586 Fuck you. 332 00:22:47,344 --> 00:22:48,310 Hm. 333 00:22:58,103 --> 00:22:59,379 What is this? 334 00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:21,034 Thanks. 335 00:23:29,551 --> 00:23:30,655 Thanks. 336 00:23:31,206 --> 00:23:32,034 Hey. 337 00:23:32,344 --> 00:23:33,551 Hi. 338 00:23:33,655 --> 00:23:35,448 Uh, I wasn't sure how much time you had, 339 00:23:35,551 --> 00:23:36,551 so I ordered you a coffee, 340 00:23:36,655 --> 00:23:37,965 but then I thought maybe you wanted tea, 341 00:23:38,068 --> 00:23:40,103 so I just got both, and then I saw a sticky bun, 342 00:23:40,241 --> 00:23:42,000 and I thought, "You can't go wrong with a sticky bun, 343 00:23:42,103 --> 00:23:43,275 can you?" 344 00:23:43,379 --> 00:23:46,448 So, um, I'm very grateful that you've agreed to meet me. 345 00:23:49,586 --> 00:23:50,827 Sorry. Jeanette. 346 00:23:52,172 --> 00:23:53,724 Sorry, are you the...? 347 00:23:53,793 --> 00:23:54,931 The lift bitch? 348 00:23:55,034 --> 00:23:56,620 Yes, that's me. 349 00:23:57,413 --> 00:23:58,793 Sorry. 350 00:24:01,206 --> 00:24:02,413 I'll take the coffee. 351 00:24:02,517 --> 00:24:03,620 Okay. 352 00:24:03,724 --> 00:24:07,034 Look, um, sorry I was a bit tricky on the phone, 353 00:24:07,137 --> 00:24:08,517 it's, um... 354 00:24:08,655 --> 00:24:10,206 It was a work crisis. 355 00:24:10,310 --> 00:24:12,931 It's fine, honestly. I've been there. 356 00:24:13,793 --> 00:24:16,965 Um, I'm currently in charge of, uh, 357 00:24:17,068 --> 00:24:18,827 an active murder investigation. 358 00:24:18,931 --> 00:24:20,103 Mm-hm. 359 00:24:20,206 --> 00:24:22,517 Um, at stake my professional reputation, 360 00:24:22,620 --> 00:24:25,137 Carl Lowry is somehow involved. 361 00:24:28,000 --> 00:24:29,689 Wow, that's, uh... 362 00:24:30,413 --> 00:24:31,482 Extreme. 363 00:24:31,586 --> 00:24:33,689 I'm truly in a tricky tight rope, here. 364 00:24:33,793 --> 00:24:36,896 My access to him has been slightly hampered. 365 00:24:37,758 --> 00:24:38,586 Ah. 366 00:24:38,896 --> 00:24:39,862 I'd be very grateful 367 00:24:39,965 --> 00:24:41,241 if you could tell me what you know. 368 00:24:41,620 --> 00:24:43,172 And, of course... 369 00:24:43,310 --> 00:24:46,103 You understand that this is confidential information? 370 00:24:46,172 --> 00:24:47,793 There's someone out there killing young men. 371 00:24:49,034 --> 00:24:51,482 I might be absolutely wrong about Lowry, 372 00:24:51,586 --> 00:24:53,000 but two men are dead, 373 00:24:53,689 --> 00:24:55,862 and I am terrified that there is gonna be a third. 374 00:24:56,000 --> 00:24:58,103 So, please, please. 375 00:24:58,965 --> 00:25:01,241 Can you tell me anything about his psychology? 376 00:25:05,206 --> 00:25:07,724 He truly believes he's done nothing wrong. 377 00:25:09,000 --> 00:25:12,103 He understands that society condemns what he's done, but... 378 00:25:13,586 --> 00:25:15,758 He has these core beliefs that 379 00:25:15,862 --> 00:25:17,413 this is the natural order of things, 380 00:25:17,517 --> 00:25:18,586 and that therefore, 381 00:25:18,689 --> 00:25:20,758 he's ultimately and fundamentally correct. 382 00:25:20,862 --> 00:25:22,137 Fuck me. 383 00:25:22,413 --> 00:25:24,206 Said he could buy me a child. 384 00:25:25,862 --> 00:25:27,827 There are people he knows can produce a child 385 00:25:27,896 --> 00:25:30,068 and make it disappear just as quickly. 386 00:25:36,172 --> 00:25:39,275 In your professional opinion, is he capable of murder? 387 00:25:40,172 --> 00:25:41,413 Oh, we all are. 388 00:25:41,517 --> 00:25:44,137 Just can't tell you if he's guilty of your murders. 389 00:25:45,413 --> 00:25:47,241 Don't stop looking, will you? 390 00:25:50,344 --> 00:25:52,413 I think there's something awful underneath all this 391 00:25:52,517 --> 00:25:54,068 that I'm just not privy to. 392 00:25:56,344 --> 00:25:58,827 There's people like that among us all the time, right? 393 00:25:58,931 --> 00:26:00,137 We meet them every day. 394 00:26:02,103 --> 00:26:03,275 Occupational hazard. 395 00:26:03,379 --> 00:26:05,000 I mean, I sometimes find it really hard 396 00:26:05,137 --> 00:26:06,689 not to think everybody's bad. 397 00:26:07,172 --> 00:26:08,137 Including me? 398 00:26:11,448 --> 00:26:14,931 I, I don't, I don't often deal with people like him. 399 00:26:15,034 --> 00:26:16,793 My main area of work is trauma patients. 400 00:26:16,931 --> 00:26:17,827 Mm-hm. 401 00:26:17,931 --> 00:26:20,275 Dissociative identities, PTSD. 402 00:26:20,620 --> 00:26:23,310 Can't make your past disappear, but you can make it hurt less. 403 00:26:23,413 --> 00:26:25,137 How does that sit with you, then? 404 00:26:25,241 --> 00:26:27,310 You're helping the victims' and perpetrators. 405 00:26:28,241 --> 00:26:30,586 Well, I have met people like him before. 406 00:26:30,689 --> 00:26:32,103 He is different. 407 00:26:34,344 --> 00:26:37,137 God, how does it sit with me? I don't know, ask me tomorrow. 408 00:26:39,862 --> 00:26:41,241 Is everything alright? 409 00:26:41,310 --> 00:26:42,310 Ah, shoot. 410 00:26:42,827 --> 00:26:44,448 Yeah, I've just gotta head back to the station 411 00:26:44,517 --> 00:26:45,931 for, uh, a bollocking. 412 00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:47,275 Okay. 413 00:26:47,620 --> 00:26:48,758 Look... 414 00:26:49,103 --> 00:26:51,586 Is there any way I could talk to you further? 415 00:26:51,655 --> 00:26:52,827 This has been immensely helpful. 416 00:26:52,931 --> 00:26:54,551 Truly can check me schedule. 417 00:26:54,620 --> 00:26:55,931 Thank you. 418 00:26:56,241 --> 00:26:58,344 Serious, thank you. Thank you, thank you. 419 00:27:02,862 --> 00:27:04,344 Before I go, um... 420 00:27:05,931 --> 00:27:08,310 If they got me this interview, what should I ask? 421 00:27:10,172 --> 00:27:12,758 Ask him if the psychiatrist did a good job. 422 00:27:13,862 --> 00:27:15,241 Thank you. 423 00:27:15,517 --> 00:27:16,655 I'll let you know. 424 00:27:40,586 --> 00:27:42,000 Good afternoon, ma'am. 425 00:27:43,000 --> 00:27:44,965 Well, two men dead in as many days. 426 00:27:45,068 --> 00:27:46,551 It's not really, is it? 427 00:27:47,379 --> 00:27:49,827 Uh, I understand optics aren't great... 428 00:27:49,896 --> 00:27:54,482 'Optics' is such an ugly word. Two men are dead. 429 00:27:55,172 --> 00:27:56,655 Let's focus on that, okay? 430 00:27:56,758 --> 00:27:57,724 Yes, ma'am. 431 00:27:58,344 --> 00:28:00,620 The minute the podcasters get their hands on it, 432 00:28:00,724 --> 00:28:02,379 our investigation is toast. 433 00:28:03,413 --> 00:28:05,310 Decades of policing under our belt. 434 00:28:05,413 --> 00:28:07,103 But a teenager buys a microphone on Amazon, 435 00:28:07,241 --> 00:28:08,965 and suddenly they're Sherlock fucking Holmes. 436 00:28:09,103 --> 00:28:11,551 Young Mike here has been catching me up on 437 00:28:11,620 --> 00:28:13,103 your meeting with Dr. Craven. 438 00:28:13,241 --> 00:28:14,586 I understand you're unhappy, 439 00:28:14,689 --> 00:28:17,931 but I received intel that's extremely pertinent to the case. 440 00:28:18,379 --> 00:28:21,413 Dr. Craven has informed me that Carl Lowry 441 00:28:22,000 --> 00:28:23,896 is involved in a pedophile ring of sorts 442 00:28:24,000 --> 00:28:27,344 that procures and disposes of children. 443 00:28:28,241 --> 00:28:31,482 I appreciate that the link to David White is tenuous. 444 00:28:32,206 --> 00:28:34,103 But we've got Lowry in custody. 445 00:28:34,241 --> 00:28:35,793 Before he slips out of here on bail, 446 00:28:35,896 --> 00:28:37,448 we should lean on him, ma'am. 447 00:28:41,448 --> 00:28:43,241 You may have your interview. 448 00:28:45,551 --> 00:28:48,793 But your conduct may well result in my making a referral 449 00:28:48,896 --> 00:28:50,896 to the Professional Standards Department. 450 00:28:51,241 --> 00:28:52,896 I understand that, ma'am, thank you. 451 00:28:53,000 --> 00:28:55,620 We are all on the same side, Jeanette. 452 00:28:56,965 --> 00:28:58,448 You'd do well to remember that. 453 00:28:58,896 --> 00:29:00,310 Thank you, ma'am. 454 00:29:07,344 --> 00:29:08,517 -Ma'am, I'm so-- -Don't worry about it, 455 00:29:08,620 --> 00:29:09,448 it's fine. 456 00:29:12,103 --> 00:29:13,862 Fucking twat. 457 00:29:26,482 --> 00:29:28,206 So, as you can see, 458 00:29:28,344 --> 00:29:30,068 Alsace-lorraine is valuable territory, 459 00:29:30,172 --> 00:29:31,620 even at this point in history 460 00:29:31,724 --> 00:29:35,689 and sits firmly within German empire post Franco-Prussian war. 461 00:29:37,034 --> 00:29:38,379 What are you gonna wear? 462 00:29:39,689 --> 00:29:40,586 I don't know. 463 00:29:40,689 --> 00:29:42,137 Something I'd wanna fuck me in. 464 00:29:42,241 --> 00:29:44,448 Mate, you could cover yourself head to toe in shit, 465 00:29:44,517 --> 00:29:46,413 and he'd still fuck you. 466 00:29:46,896 --> 00:29:48,000 He's obsessed. 467 00:29:48,344 --> 00:29:49,517 Don't even. 468 00:29:49,620 --> 00:29:51,482 I'm mucking out on the farm in the morning, 469 00:29:51,551 --> 00:29:53,758 so I genuinely might stink of shit. 470 00:29:54,517 --> 00:29:57,551 You're losing your virginity this week, you total slut. 471 00:29:58,000 --> 00:29:59,620 Just don't have sex in my parents' bed, 472 00:29:59,689 --> 00:30:01,310 or we can never have a party again. 473 00:30:01,379 --> 00:30:03,862 Like, you can have sex in my bed, 474 00:30:03,965 --> 00:30:05,310 as long as you don't squirt. 475 00:30:05,379 --> 00:30:08,551 Charlie! My God, what is wrong with you? 476 00:30:12,827 --> 00:30:14,862 What makes you, you? 477 00:30:15,137 --> 00:30:17,620 Obliterated in a single war. 478 00:30:25,034 --> 00:30:27,413 Hey, you don't have to do that. 479 00:30:28,034 --> 00:30:29,517 And we don't want these. 480 00:30:32,310 --> 00:30:33,827 You don't want the chocolate? 481 00:30:42,137 --> 00:30:43,379 Okay. 482 00:30:54,137 --> 00:30:55,931 So, you can fight, yeah? 483 00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:00,689 How would you like to make £300? 484 00:31:00,793 --> 00:31:01,896 Doing what? 485 00:31:05,896 --> 00:31:07,586 There's a gym around the corner. 486 00:31:08,793 --> 00:31:13,586 You practice punching. When you're ready, you fight. 487 00:31:14,862 --> 00:31:16,551 It's £300 each time. 488 00:31:17,448 --> 00:31:18,896 You don't have to win. 489 00:31:20,379 --> 00:31:21,620 I don't have to win? 490 00:31:23,931 --> 00:31:25,103 I'm serious. 491 00:31:26,931 --> 00:31:30,068 Come along tonight, and bring the kid. 492 00:31:41,103 --> 00:31:43,413 For the tape, this is DCI Jeanette Kilburn 493 00:31:43,517 --> 00:31:47,103 interviewing Mr. Carl Lowry, who's declined 494 00:31:47,206 --> 00:31:48,862 legal representation present. 495 00:31:48,965 --> 00:31:49,896 Is this correct? 496 00:31:50,034 --> 00:31:51,000 -Why waste their time? -Fair enough. 497 00:31:51,068 --> 00:31:52,758 -No coffee. -Mm. 498 00:31:57,586 --> 00:31:59,241 So, you're someone else to know what it's like 499 00:31:59,344 --> 00:32:01,379 to be sexually attracted to children? 500 00:32:03,413 --> 00:32:04,448 Does it feel good 501 00:32:04,517 --> 00:32:07,344 to finally be able to talk about it, Carl? 502 00:32:08,655 --> 00:32:11,965 You know, it really does. 503 00:32:13,448 --> 00:32:15,448 You can end up living a half-life, 504 00:32:15,896 --> 00:32:17,344 siphoning yourself away. 505 00:32:17,482 --> 00:32:18,793 It feels like a lie. 506 00:32:19,310 --> 00:32:20,517 Because... 507 00:32:21,206 --> 00:32:23,413 In a world that harps on representation, 508 00:32:23,517 --> 00:32:26,931 I will never see the way that I experience love as acceptable. 509 00:32:28,896 --> 00:32:30,206 It depresses me. 510 00:32:45,793 --> 00:32:47,379 Tell me what you know about him, Carl. 511 00:32:47,482 --> 00:32:48,931 Why are you showing me this? 512 00:32:49,034 --> 00:32:51,448 Well, I've been told that you're the man in the know 513 00:32:51,551 --> 00:32:53,931 when it comes to buying and disposing of children. 514 00:32:55,620 --> 00:32:57,965 So, tell me, who is this young man, 515 00:32:58,068 --> 00:32:59,517 and how did you kill him? 516 00:32:59,620 --> 00:33:00,862 I didn't. 517 00:33:01,586 --> 00:33:03,310 This young man's body was found 518 00:33:04,275 --> 00:33:07,517 outside your offices yesterday morning. 519 00:33:08,379 --> 00:33:09,379 Toxicology reports are back, 520 00:33:09,482 --> 00:33:12,000 and he's pumped full of lidocaine. 521 00:33:25,103 --> 00:33:26,862 This young man, he was found this morning 522 00:33:27,000 --> 00:33:29,310 outside a meat packing warehouse, 523 00:33:29,862 --> 00:33:32,724 also pumped full of lidocaine. 524 00:33:35,137 --> 00:33:36,827 What's so funny, Carl? 525 00:33:36,931 --> 00:33:38,172 Oh, all of it. 526 00:33:39,310 --> 00:33:40,793 All of it and none of it. 527 00:33:41,517 --> 00:33:43,172 Did you kill these boys? 528 00:33:43,241 --> 00:33:46,103 I'm afraid DCI Kilburn, you're very much mistaken. 529 00:33:46,206 --> 00:33:48,172 Are you saying you're innocent in this? 530 00:33:49,413 --> 00:33:51,137 I don't like little boys. 531 00:33:51,206 --> 00:33:53,068 -You like little girls. -What's not to like? 532 00:33:53,206 --> 00:33:54,551 Do you know David White? 533 00:33:56,724 --> 00:33:58,689 I honestly couldn't tell you, I'm afraid. 534 00:34:00,000 --> 00:34:02,896 Do any of your friends like young boys, Carl? 535 00:34:03,620 --> 00:34:05,586 Of your friends who like little boys, 536 00:34:05,724 --> 00:34:07,620 any of them into torture? 537 00:34:08,758 --> 00:34:10,758 I don't know who you could be referring to. 538 00:34:10,896 --> 00:34:12,206 You explain something to me. 539 00:34:12,275 --> 00:34:15,655 Explain why you're so at ease outing yourself as a pedophile, 540 00:34:15,793 --> 00:34:18,034 so reluctant to confessing to being a murderer? 541 00:34:18,551 --> 00:34:20,827 Simple, because I've never murdered anyone. 542 00:34:20,931 --> 00:34:22,379 Help me find who did, then. 543 00:34:22,448 --> 00:34:24,413 Because I think you can help, because I think you know. 544 00:34:24,551 --> 00:34:25,724 I think you know. 545 00:34:27,172 --> 00:34:28,275 And if I do? 546 00:34:30,103 --> 00:34:31,448 It wouldn't make a difference. 547 00:34:35,931 --> 00:34:38,379 Did the psychiatrist do a good job? 548 00:34:47,758 --> 00:34:50,517 She didn't do the job she was supposed to. 549 00:34:52,896 --> 00:34:55,310 Now, I'd be grateful if I could return to my cell 550 00:34:55,413 --> 00:34:56,758 ahead of my imminent bail. 551 00:35:03,517 --> 00:35:07,689 Interview terminated at 4:34 P.M. 552 00:35:10,413 --> 00:35:12,344 I'm gonna find out what's goin' on here. 553 00:35:14,344 --> 00:35:15,758 Everything. 554 00:35:16,931 --> 00:35:18,206 You know that, don't you? 555 00:35:24,551 --> 00:35:25,758 How did that go? 556 00:35:25,896 --> 00:35:27,551 What the hell was that? He's a slippery fucker. 557 00:35:27,655 --> 00:35:28,931 He's a classic pedo. 558 00:35:29,034 --> 00:35:30,206 Oh, don't say pedo. 559 00:35:30,310 --> 00:35:32,862 Right, so we know that it is not him 560 00:35:32,931 --> 00:35:36,517 physically dumping these bodies, but I still think he's involved. 561 00:35:36,620 --> 00:35:38,344 -Why? -Because he's frightened. 562 00:35:38,448 --> 00:35:40,137 I mean, he's shit-scared. 563 00:35:40,241 --> 00:35:43,551 Something he said about all of it and none of it. 564 00:35:43,655 --> 00:35:44,965 I mean, he knows what's happened, 565 00:35:45,034 --> 00:35:46,965 he just won't say, or he can't say. 566 00:35:47,068 --> 00:35:48,241 Which is it? Fuck. 567 00:35:49,448 --> 00:35:51,103 Let's see what she's gonna say. 568 00:35:51,482 --> 00:35:52,862 Give me a second. 569 00:35:53,862 --> 00:35:55,724 -Hello? -Dr. Craven? 570 00:35:55,827 --> 00:35:57,724 Hi, this is, um, DCI Jeanette Kilburn. 571 00:35:57,862 --> 00:35:59,379 Ah, yes. Hi, Jeanette. 572 00:35:59,482 --> 00:36:02,793 Yeah, listen, I just interviewed Carl Lowry, 573 00:36:02,931 --> 00:36:04,137 and I've got more questions than answers, 574 00:36:04,275 --> 00:36:06,758 and, um, I know that I already owe you a favor... 575 00:36:07,379 --> 00:36:09,724 But I was just wondering if it's possible to meet up. 576 00:36:09,793 --> 00:36:13,344 Uh, of course. Uh, I'm free this evening. 577 00:36:13,413 --> 00:36:14,482 Yes, that's good. 578 00:36:14,586 --> 00:36:15,965 -Great. -Yeah, I can do that. 579 00:36:16,103 --> 00:36:18,241 You can come around to mine. I'll send you my address. 580 00:36:18,344 --> 00:36:19,689 Sounds like a plan. 581 00:36:19,793 --> 00:36:21,137 Okay, I'll be straight there. I really appreciate this. 582 00:36:21,275 --> 00:36:22,172 Thanks, ma'am. 583 00:36:22,275 --> 00:36:23,310 -Okay. -Yeah, thanks very much. 584 00:36:23,448 --> 00:36:24,310 -Buh-bye. -Bye. 585 00:36:24,758 --> 00:36:25,586 You're sure she doesn't fancy you? 586 00:36:25,655 --> 00:36:26,724 Grow the fuck up, for fuck's sake. 587 00:36:26,793 --> 00:36:29,448 Right, you gonna give me a lift home, or what? 588 00:36:29,586 --> 00:36:31,965 Uh-huh. After you. 589 00:36:33,068 --> 00:36:34,413 -Good night, ma'am. -Good night, Mike. 590 00:36:34,551 --> 00:36:35,931 Good night. 591 00:36:47,517 --> 00:36:48,551 Come in. 592 00:36:50,379 --> 00:36:51,413 David. 593 00:36:52,275 --> 00:36:55,275 Oh, I'm so sorry, your appointment was earlier, 594 00:36:55,379 --> 00:36:57,241 and I'm afraid you've missed your slot. 595 00:36:57,862 --> 00:36:59,655 I can see you at the same time next week. 596 00:36:59,758 --> 00:37:02,000 If you don't mind, I'd really like to talk now, 597 00:37:02,103 --> 00:37:03,137 if you're free. 598 00:37:03,517 --> 00:37:08,000 It's urgent, please. I'll pay again, of course. 599 00:37:13,241 --> 00:37:14,517 Take a seat. 600 00:37:15,172 --> 00:37:16,482 Thank you. 601 00:37:17,000 --> 00:37:19,000 I had a pretty horrific day. 602 00:37:19,275 --> 00:37:20,137 Oh, yeah? 603 00:37:22,482 --> 00:37:23,620 And what's happened? 604 00:37:23,689 --> 00:37:24,827 What would you like to tell me about? 605 00:37:25,172 --> 00:37:26,862 Well, somethin' has happened. 606 00:37:27,379 --> 00:37:29,068 Somethin' that wasn't supposed to happen. 607 00:37:32,793 --> 00:37:37,034 And we need to talk about control. 608 00:37:42,931 --> 00:37:45,344 What is it about control that you'd like to discuss? 609 00:37:46,724 --> 00:37:49,000 I'd like to play the shopping game. 610 00:37:51,724 --> 00:37:53,482 Alright, we can do that, David. 611 00:38:06,344 --> 00:38:07,517 David. 612 00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:19,965 Today, I went to the shop, and I bought... 613 00:38:21,034 --> 00:38:22,137 An egg. 614 00:38:24,103 --> 00:38:25,448 Today I went to the shop, 615 00:38:25,551 --> 00:38:27,655 and I bought an egg and some bacon. 616 00:38:30,000 --> 00:38:31,862 Today I went to the shop, 617 00:38:31,965 --> 00:38:36,965 and I bought an egg, some bacon, and... 618 00:38:39,379 --> 00:38:40,896 A silencer. 619 00:38:50,413 --> 00:38:52,068 It's your turn. 620 00:38:54,689 --> 00:38:55,793 Today I went to the shop, 621 00:38:55,896 --> 00:38:59,103 and I bought an egg, some bacon, a silencer... 622 00:39:06,034 --> 00:39:07,517 And a tea set. 623 00:39:14,620 --> 00:39:16,931 Thank you for humoring me. 624 00:39:42,310 --> 00:39:44,137 Please, may I be excused? 625 00:39:48,275 --> 00:39:51,000 Not until your father's finished. 626 00:39:56,724 --> 00:39:57,793 But I have homework to do. 627 00:39:57,896 --> 00:39:59,517 Your mother said no. 628 00:40:00,482 --> 00:40:01,931 No means no. 629 00:40:23,379 --> 00:40:24,586 Sorry. 630 00:40:24,931 --> 00:40:26,793 Poured you a glass of wine without even askin'. 631 00:40:26,931 --> 00:40:28,620 Oh, sure. 632 00:40:33,034 --> 00:40:34,551 Lowry's not a victim is he? 633 00:40:34,655 --> 00:40:36,000 He's not being set up? 634 00:40:36,827 --> 00:40:38,310 What makes you say that? 635 00:40:38,655 --> 00:40:41,000 When I showed him the photographs, I don't know. 636 00:40:41,758 --> 00:40:43,620 I don't think he'd seen them before, you know? 637 00:40:43,724 --> 00:40:45,965 But he didn't seem surprised, either. 638 00:40:46,655 --> 00:40:48,206 So, what do you make of that? 639 00:40:48,310 --> 00:40:49,655 Oh, he's involved. 640 00:40:50,137 --> 00:40:53,655 I know he is, I just, I don't know how directly. 641 00:40:54,931 --> 00:40:57,448 How common is it for someone's victimology to change? 642 00:40:57,862 --> 00:40:59,931 Oh, it's relatively rare. 643 00:41:00,000 --> 00:41:03,724 Actually dependent on things like motive, opportunity. 644 00:41:06,551 --> 00:41:07,862 Have you ever been so sure of somethin' 645 00:41:07,965 --> 00:41:10,206 it almost sets your teeth on edge? 646 00:41:12,620 --> 00:41:13,793 Yeah. 647 00:41:14,965 --> 00:41:16,931 Yeah, I have. 648 00:41:18,689 --> 00:41:21,379 Uh, I had a client, a young woman. 649 00:41:24,034 --> 00:41:28,000 There was something there, it was something ugly. 650 00:41:32,689 --> 00:41:33,827 She completely preoccupied me, 651 00:41:33,896 --> 00:41:36,206 to detriment of my other clients, truth be told. 652 00:41:36,551 --> 00:41:38,172 What was it about? 653 00:41:39,137 --> 00:41:43,724 She was alluring, puzzling, terrifying. 654 00:41:45,000 --> 00:41:46,724 And I must've pushed too hard, 655 00:41:46,827 --> 00:41:49,206 because, uh, something awful happened. 656 00:41:52,068 --> 00:41:55,344 Uh, she tried to take her life in a session with me. 657 00:41:55,482 --> 00:41:56,689 Christ. 658 00:42:00,310 --> 00:42:02,620 Yeah, I, uh, took her to the hospital. 659 00:42:03,448 --> 00:42:04,758 The reason I bring her up, though, 660 00:42:04,862 --> 00:42:06,275 is because when I was with her, 661 00:42:06,379 --> 00:42:08,793 I've never been so sure in my entire life of something 662 00:42:08,896 --> 00:42:10,862 That feeling you just described, it... 663 00:42:12,103 --> 00:42:14,586 I know it, because it, it haunts me. 664 00:42:17,137 --> 00:42:18,103 What happened to her? 665 00:42:21,931 --> 00:42:23,551 She... 666 00:42:23,655 --> 00:42:24,827 She vanished. 667 00:42:26,206 --> 00:42:27,103 Hi-ya. 668 00:42:27,241 --> 00:42:30,413 Oh God, Jojo, you scared the life out of me. 669 00:42:30,931 --> 00:42:32,000 Have you found the person who 670 00:42:32,103 --> 00:42:33,448 murdered the boys in the bags yet? 671 00:42:35,000 --> 00:42:38,344 Uh, Jojo, this is Dr. Craven, she's a colleague. 672 00:42:39,344 --> 00:42:40,551 -Hello. -Hi. 673 00:42:40,655 --> 00:42:43,931 She's a psychiatrist, and she's assisting someone, 674 00:42:44,034 --> 00:42:45,620 and we wanna know if they did it or not, 675 00:42:45,724 --> 00:42:47,586 and Dr. Craven is in a good position 676 00:42:47,724 --> 00:42:48,793 to tell us how. 677 00:42:48,896 --> 00:42:51,000 Oh. Interesting. 678 00:42:51,862 --> 00:42:53,103 Mm-hm. 679 00:42:53,206 --> 00:42:55,068 Where's your dad? Is he sleeping? 680 00:42:55,862 --> 00:42:57,241 Uh... 681 00:42:57,344 --> 00:42:58,413 Hello? 682 00:42:58,758 --> 00:43:00,275 -Hi. -Oh, hi. 683 00:43:04,344 --> 00:43:06,689 Did you, uh, did you leave our 13-year-old son 684 00:43:06,793 --> 00:43:08,034 at home by himself? 685 00:43:08,172 --> 00:43:10,310 I had that meeting today, remember? 686 00:43:11,482 --> 00:43:14,000 Oh, come on, he's 13. He's more than capable. 687 00:43:14,137 --> 00:43:15,689 I was left at home on my own at 13. 688 00:43:15,793 --> 00:43:17,620 Yeah, so was I, that's because we're dinosaurs. 689 00:43:17,724 --> 00:43:19,448 That's completely unacceptable. 690 00:43:19,551 --> 00:43:20,689 Mum, it was fine. 691 00:43:20,793 --> 00:43:21,931 I, I had a sandwich for lunch, 692 00:43:22,000 --> 00:43:24,137 I didn't touch the hob, I played Fortnite. 693 00:43:24,206 --> 00:43:25,206 It was fun. 694 00:43:25,310 --> 00:43:26,413 So gaming and lunch? How long were you gone? 695 00:43:26,517 --> 00:43:28,344 It was a full meeting, Jeanette. I don't know. 696 00:43:28,448 --> 00:43:29,620 -About four hours? -Four hours? 697 00:43:29,724 --> 00:43:31,310 You left me no choice. 698 00:43:31,413 --> 00:43:34,275 I needed to go to her meeting, and it worked out, didn't it? 699 00:43:34,344 --> 00:43:35,758 -Guess what? -Hm? 700 00:43:35,862 --> 00:43:37,344 I made a sale. 701 00:43:38,206 --> 00:43:39,137 Yes. 702 00:43:39,551 --> 00:43:40,827 I made a fucking sale, 703 00:43:40,931 --> 00:43:42,620 and Joe didn't burn the bloody house down. 704 00:43:43,068 --> 00:43:45,413 I'm so sorry, gotta head. 705 00:43:46,689 --> 00:43:47,758 Hi, I'm Alex. 706 00:43:47,827 --> 00:43:49,379 -Sorry, I... -Sophia, this is Alex. 707 00:43:49,482 --> 00:43:51,034 Alex, this is Sophia, and I'm really sorry, 708 00:43:51,137 --> 00:43:52,689 because a domestic was absolutely not 709 00:43:52,827 --> 00:43:54,000 on the cards today. 710 00:43:54,137 --> 00:43:55,689 Yeah, we can talk about that later. 711 00:43:55,793 --> 00:43:56,827 Sorry to interrupt. 712 00:43:56,965 --> 00:43:58,758 Mm, please, um, thank you. 713 00:43:59,241 --> 00:44:01,827 Uh, just call me if you need anything. 714 00:44:01,896 --> 00:44:03,448 You sure you don't want to stay? 715 00:44:03,586 --> 00:44:04,827 Jojo and I can make ourselves scarce. 716 00:44:04,931 --> 00:44:06,241 No, no. Honestly, it's fine. 717 00:44:06,379 --> 00:44:08,482 Um, congratulations, and, uh, lovely to meet you. 718 00:44:08,586 --> 00:44:10,965 Just message me if you need anything, yeah? 719 00:44:13,655 --> 00:44:14,689 Oh... 720 00:44:27,655 --> 00:44:29,344 Is this the gym? 721 00:44:43,103 --> 00:44:44,827 Stay out of trouble, eh? 722 00:45:00,448 --> 00:45:03,206 Good boy! Go! 723 00:45:04,448 --> 00:45:07,137 Okay, boys, we're gonna . 724 00:45:07,241 --> 00:45:08,586 So, let's go. 725 00:45:08,655 --> 00:45:13,482 One, two, three, four, 726 00:45:13,586 --> 00:45:15,758 five, six. 727 00:45:16,448 --> 00:45:18,758 Keep it straight, get those legs straight. 728 00:45:21,068 --> 00:45:22,310 One. 729 00:45:22,827 --> 00:45:24,241 Two. 730 00:45:24,551 --> 00:45:25,724 Three. 731 00:46:09,655 --> 00:46:12,413 Tell me about your mother, Victoria. 732 00:46:12,689 --> 00:46:14,068 What was she like? 733 00:46:15,448 --> 00:46:16,586 Blind. 734 00:46:18,275 --> 00:46:21,413 Vacuous, self-centered. 735 00:46:24,448 --> 00:46:25,689 Cruel. 736 00:46:26,310 --> 00:46:28,482 Alright... 737 00:46:28,586 --> 00:46:30,517 What did she do that was so cruel? 738 00:46:32,344 --> 00:46:33,586 She didn't do anything. 739 00:46:35,655 --> 00:46:37,206 That was just it, you see. 740 00:46:40,896 --> 00:46:43,551 A person's cruelty isn't measured by what they do. 741 00:46:44,137 --> 00:46:47,275 Right. I'm going out. 742 00:46:50,379 --> 00:46:51,862 It's what they don't do. 743 00:47:10,206 --> 00:47:12,482 And my mummy... 744 00:47:14,068 --> 00:47:15,448 Let it all happen. 745 00:47:16,827 --> 00:47:17,931 All of it.